* 欢迎大家光临中欧校友心理健康群。现在Steve Gunther （vinay)在我身边他可以打字英文，我可以翻译成英文。一会他可以向大家问好。
* Hello everyone. I am happy to be on this seminar with you.
I am Vinay Gunther, from Australia, and currently here in
Shanghai.
I have just come from Nanjing, where I ran a Gestalt workshop on
the weekend for the Existential Psychotherapy Institute.
Thankyou. I am happy to be in China, and sharing my excitement
about Gestalt with you.
好的，Steve说向大家问好，他刚刚结束南京存在主义心理治疗学院的完形工作坊。现在他介绍一下完形。
*Gestalt is a therapy, but its also a philosophy and way of life.
It draws on a long philosophical tradition 200 years old
完形是一种治疗方法，也是一种哲学和生活方式。有200年哲学历史了。
*The first principle is awareness. Here we work with non-
interpretive awareness. That means, we are interested in the 'what
is'. We notice phenomena, and enquire into the client's
experience. This is a contrast to an interpretive approach, which
starts with a 'map' of the world, and explains our experience
using that map
第一个原则是觉知。这里是指不带解释的觉知。它的意思是，我们对“如是”感兴趣。我们注意现象，并且询问案主的经验。这是和解读性的方法相对的。那种方法从世界的“地图”开始，用那个地图解释我们的经验。
*The second principle is Field Theory. In this case, we are
interested in the context of the person's experience. We look at
all the interconnected factors. We understand the problem by
understanding all the influences - past, present, and future.
Relationship, family, culture, economy. Everything affects us. We
pay attention to complexity, and we find a way to use this
therapeutically to grasp the whole picture
第二个原则是场域理论。这种情况下，我们感兴趣的是人经验的背景。我们考察相互之间关联的因素。我们在所有相互影响的因素之间理解问题-过去的，现在的，未来的。关系，家庭，文化，经济，每一件事情都影响我们。我们注意到复杂性，我们寻找一种方法来治疗时抓住整体图像。
*The third principle is dialouge. Here we move out of the expert
position, into a more horizontal relationship. What matter is not
our specialised knowledge, but our ability to meet as two human
beings. This requires humility, and a willingness on the part of
the therapist to be transparent and authentic.
第三个原则是对话。我们从专家的身份出来，走入一个平等的关系。重要的不是我们的专业知识，而是我们作为两个“人”交往的能力。这个需要谦卑，愿意站在透明和真实的治疗师角度。
*Lastly we use Experiment. This means instead of 'talking about' a
problem, we bring it to life. We use creativity, drama, and
embodiment to explore an issue. This is an action mode, but it's
oriented towards increasing awareness, and developing new
experiences rather than being prescriptive.
最后我们谈到实验。这意味着不是“谈论”一个问题，我们把它生活化。我们使用创造性，戏剧和具体化来探索问题。这只是一种行动模式。这样可以朝向增加觉知，发展新体验,而不是指令性的。
*So Gestalt practice is an integration of these four pillars. We
use each one, depending on what is the need of the client, and the
need of the moment. This is useful not only in therapy, but in
business, education, group settings.
所以完形的实践是以上四个支柱的整合运用。我们根据案主需要，当时的需要决定使用每一个。完形不仅对心理治疗有用，而且可以用在商业，教育，团体模式中。
*I will also mention some core Gestalt values. The first is
Authenticity. This takes courage, and a willingness to be fully
present in relationship. The second is Responsiblity - not in the
sense of Duty, but in the existential sense - that I have full
ownership over my choices, and therefore my life; I am not in the
victim stance. Thirdly is aliveness - we are interested in how to
live fully, rather than simply following what is expected by
others.
我也将再提出一些完形的核心价值观。第一是真实性，这个需要勇气，还有愿意在关系里面完全临在。第二是负责任，不是职责的意思。而是在存在的意义上，就是我对自己的选择有完全自主权，以及我的生命。我不是处在一个被害者立场上。第三是鲜活，生动，我们感兴趣的是如何彻底活出生命，而不是简
单跟随别人的期望值。
*Steve问大家目前有问题要问吗？
*同学：老师上课是什么形式的？
*I like to present the theoretical framework, to give a context,
and then demonstrate with individual work. After that, I explain
what I did, referring to the theory principles, and then ask for a
discussion.
我上课将会使用理论框架，给出一个背景，然后展示个人的工作。之后，我会解释个案，导向理论原则，并邀请大家讨论
*同学：完形是否类似禅宗，当头棒喝？
*That is an old style of Gestalt, from Fritz Perl's style 40 years
ago. But now we practice in a different way. We are more
interested in support, and in the relationship, so its more two
way, and more sensitive and patient.
类似禅宗形式更多属于一种老的完形风格，从Fritz Perls（完形创始人）40年以前开始的。但是现在的完形更多是不同的方式。我们更加感兴趣的是支持，关系中的，更加双向的，更加敏感和有耐心的。
我身边还有黄建和老师的评论：完形里面有大量禅宗的智慧，同时，禅宗不仅仅是棒喝，还有更多很好玩的形式。
*同学：非常谢谢。我有一个问题，以上提到的四个原则：觉察，整合和联结，沟通，和体验也在其他现代治疗方法上使用，完形有什么特别聚焦或应用的吗？
Thanks a lot. I do have a question. the 4 basic principles
mentioned above: awareness, intgeration and connection,
communication, and experiencing are also used by many mordern
therapies, and what's Guestalt's particilar focus or application?
thanks again!
*Yes, its true, there is more convergence these days between
therapies. Firstly, there is a deep tradition in Gestalt, so its
not techique-oriented. The emphasis is on absorbing and
integrating the principles into your own understanding and life,
and then you can apply them with others. Secondly, there are some
distinctive features - for instance the emphasis on authenticity
and transparency on the part of the therapist. This is still quite
rare - most therapists and therapies are more facilitative, more
focused on the client. But Gestalt does have some parallels in
therapies such as Intersubjectivity, which sees the issues of the
clients as being co-created in the therapeutic relationship.
是的，这是真的。最近的治疗方式间有很多整合。第一，在完形中有很深的传统，所以它不是技巧导向的。重点是把完形原则吸收整合到你的理解和生活中去。然后你才能把它们运用出来。第二，有明显的特点-举例来说从治疗师角度强调真实性和透明。这是非常少见的。更多的治疗师和治疗方法都是引导状态，更聚焦在案主身上，但是完形也和其他治疗方式用平行之处，比如主题相关理论，在治疗关系中共同创造案主问题的解决方法。
*同学：谢谢，因此，我能否说作为一个完形治疗师，他需要深入理解事物，比如生命的意义和目的，做一个更加整合，真实和幸福的人，然后才能帮助他人？
Thanks, therefore, can I say as a Gestalt therpist, one need to
have in-depth understanding of things like meaning and purpose of
life, to be a more integrated, authentic, and happy person, before
one can help others?
*Well, we are all works in progress, but its true, that you need
to be doing your own therapeutic work, so you develop the depth of
your own awareness, and can then bring that into the relationship.
This is first; of course, knowledge and skill is also required.
These can be learned.
好的，我们都是在进步中工作，但是真的，你需要做自己的治疗工作，你需要发展出自己的深度觉察，能把它带入关系中。这是第一步，当然，知识和技巧也是需要的，这些可以学习。
*同学：我有点怕完形。
另外一个同学说：我超爱超爱完形，众多课程中最爱的，下次我们一起吧
*My style is to start with where you are at. If you feel anxiety
or fear, then we begin there, and I find what support you need.
Fear can paralyse, or it can be a window into your deeper needs,
and the first step in reaching out.
我的风格是从你目前的位置开始。如果你感觉到焦虑或者害怕，那我们就从那里开始，然后我可以从你的需求开始支持。害怕可以使你无力，也可以成为你更深需求的窗户，第一步是开始行动。
*Please come to our salon tomorrow night, so you can see how thisall works!
请明天晚上来我们的沙龙，你就可以看到这一切如何运作~！
*同学：感到太有趣了，可惜我住在北京不能参加。
feel so interested! what a pity that I'm located in Beijing and
cannot attend!
*Well, I will have to come to Beijing sometime !
好吧，我将来某个时间来北京吧
*同学：那太好了，期盼着。
That would be fantastic! looking forward to that!
*For those who can come tomorrow to our salon in Shanghai: I will
do some demonstration work, so you can see how the modern Gestalt process works.
对于那些能够明天来上海沙龙的朋友，我将做一些展示工作，你们就可以看到现代完形的运作方式了。
*So one question I could address is how is this relevant in the
business world?
我可以说说完形如何与商业有关。
*For a manager for instance, its very important to be able to get
out of your thinking, and just be able to observe without
evaluation. In that way, you can step out of your habitual ways of
seeing, and allow new information into your awareness. This
expands your curiosity about what is going on, and what is
happening in those around you. By stepping out of your familiar
patterns, you can create innovation, and make space for new things
to happen in employees and teams. It all starts with your awareness.
对一个经理人员来说，很重要的一点是从我们的思维里面跳出来，能够不带评判的观察事物。这样，你就可以从习惯性看法里出来，允许新的信息进入你的觉知。这样拓宽了你的好奇心，了解你的身边和你里面正在发生什么。从走出你熟悉的模式开始，你就可以做出创新，为在员工和团队中的新事物发生腾出空间。所以一切从你的觉察开始。
*Field Theory is also very useful. When a problem occurs you can
pay attention to the way that the context creates that problem,
rather than individuals. What is happening in the dynamic of the
team, or the company, which invisibly organises this issue? This
requires a different way of thinking - multiple rather than
singular causality. It also requires thinking outside the box, and
moving beyond blame, to a curiosity about the larger system.
场域理论也是非常有用的。当你遇到一个问题，你会注意到产生问题的背景，而不只是个体。在团队或公司里面动态地正在发生着什么，那个是看不见的背后的力量。 这需要采用一种不同的思维方式-多重因果而不是单项因果。这个也需要跳出盒子来思考，移出责备的模式，到达一个更大系统下的好奇。
*大家有问题吗，欢迎问题
*同学：我有一个问题。场域理论看起来非常注重整体观和元素之间的相互联系，和系统思考有什么区别和联系呢？I have a question: it seems that the field theory pays great attention about the big pituture, the whole, and the interconnection among the components. what's the difference and/or relations between the field theory and the system thinking?
*同学：系统思考也注重整体观，并且强调不做简单归因并且深入理解内在机制。The system thinking is also focused on the perspective of the
whole,and do not simple attributes the phenomina to one or two
causes.
*They utilise the same principles. But systems theory focuses on
discrete systems. Whereas field theory also includes a broader
focus. We can focus anywhere in the field; we are guided by the
issue at hand. Sometimes we need to focus on the immediate system that the person is part of. But we can also move very laterally;
one of the principles of FIeld Theory is Possible Relevance. That
means we can look at aspects of the field which may not seem to be important, and gain very useful perspectives in that way.
它们使用同样的原则。但是系统理论聚焦在离散的系统。而场域理论还包括了更广的聚焦。我们可以聚焦在场域里面的任何地方。我们用手头的问题来指引。有时，我们需要聚焦在个案当事人当时所在的系统里面。但是我们也能移向另外一边。场域理论的一个原则就是“可能的关联”。那个意味着我们可以看到场域里面的各方面，不一定是看起来重要的。从而这种方法可以取得非常有用的观点。
*同学：非常清晰，多谢！That is very clear answer. thanks a lot!
*同学：看来场域理论和后来整合心理学中肯威尔伯提出的全子理论也有很大的相似之处。It seems Ken Wilber's holon theory from the later
intergal psychology also has strong similarity to the Field
theory.
*A useful access to the Field is stories. There are old, worn out,
and lifeless stories which simply repeat themselves, and reinforce
stuckness. But sometimes people's stories need to be heard, they
are alive and full of energy and potentiality and emotion. The
skill is discerning the difference, interrupting habitual stories,
and bringing them to life - this is where the Gestalt Experiment
is very useful.
一种到场域的有用的方式是故事。有些故事是旧的，非常古老的和没有生命的，那只会让案主重复他们自己，加强他们被困住的感觉。但是有时候，人们的需要听到故事，是鲜活的，充满能量，潜力和感情的。这些技巧非常好的领悟了差异，打断了当事人习惯性的故事，把他们带入生活-这是完形的实验可以大有用武之地的地方。
*Yes, holon or fractal theory understands the way phenomena is
expressed throughout the system. This means we can look at any
part of the system, and we can access core information. In
Gestalt, we take this understanding and apply it to revealing the
partiular dynamic that will have the most change leverage.
是的，全子或分形理论是从现象在体系内全面表达的方式。这意味着我们可以看到系统的任意部分，我们可以获取关键信息。在完形里面，我们采用这种理解方式把它运用到揭示带来最重大变化特别的动力。
*同学：Thanks a lot for the clarification. I will say this gave me
a totally new udnerstanding of the mordern Gestalt theory. it is a
lot more profound and complicated than I thought. 多谢您清晰的阐述。这让我对现代格式塔理论有了全新的认识。它比我原先知道的深奥和复杂很多。
*Yes, the background we utilise is very sophisticated. And that is
contrasted with the clarity of focus on converting the issues
presented into the here and now; taking global statements and
making them specific; taking disowned statements and inviting the
person to change their language, to reflect their choicefulness.
And as a practitioner, to step away from 'making sense' of the
presenting issue in my terms. Instead, I start with 'the obvious',
and then enquire into the client's own meaning. This is a very
straightforward approach which allows us to work without needing
to be 'clever'.
是的，我们采用的背景是非常复杂的。这个复杂性是相对于我们要把问题呈现在当下来说的清晰焦点来说的。做全面的陈述，然后把它具体化。接收一些虚幻的说法，然后邀请当事人把它的语言转化成充满选择的方式。作为一个（完形）治疗师，要走出对自己“有意义”的呈现问题方式，代之以，我从“明显的（事情）”开始，然后询问当事人他们自己的意思。这是一种非常直接的方法，让我们可以不需要变“聪明”也可以工作。
*谢谢大家参与，今天的完形分享线上理论部分暂时告一段落
欢迎可以参加的同学，明天过来宜山路700号3号楼13楼巨人网络公司，现场沙龙，欢迎明天可以在现场和Steve老师互动。这是一个难得的机会。地铁9号线桂林路 5号口上来就是。晚上七点半开始，七点签到。
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